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Post by raemen2 on Dec 30, 2019 17:21:39 GMT -6
Gamberg apparently had big issues with writing reports, they just weren’t his thing.
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Post by kmik on Dec 30, 2019 17:37:58 GMT -6
So true Ramen and yes Cam you are reading the report correctly
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Post by Admin Horan on Dec 31, 2019 9:04:32 GMT -6
In California, if all Gamberg ever was was a [deputized] reserve officer and part-time narc, then he wouldn't write reports. Only duly sworn officers of the court would write official reports. For example, if, as a reserve officer, he found Tina's body in the woods, he would not have written a report. He would have been interviewed as any other witness. Which is what we see in Stoy's report on Gamberg's report on a convo he had with (another) informant.
I don't know if Gamberg has EVER really been a full-time deputy sheriff. I think all he's ever been is a reserve officer, and that was mostly as a juvenile narc. If he was a full-time deputy sheriff when he got fired (twice,) that was it for him, as far as I know. He's never been anything but a reserve officer since before the Keddie 28 murders, as far as I know. I know he calls himself a "consulting detective" or whatever, but he gets paid as a reserve officer just like the rest of them. He's never even been a PO.
This report confirms what I keep suggesting--Gamberg MOSTLY (if not entirely) worked with narcotics informants. That's what he was doing with Dana. His boys weren't friends with Dana until Dana was arrested. Dana's foster parents said he was about to be moved to a "more secure" group home. Why, unless he was working off his probation as an informant? And why was he allowed to run around loose all weekend, if he was in a group home as part of his probation? The only reason is, because that's what he was SUPPOSED to be doing. You don't run around loose all night if you're a juvenile on probation. It's a condition of your probation that you're home by 9:00 or 10:00 or whatever. That's why he was in foster care to begin with. To keep him off the streets.
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Post by raemen2 on Dec 31, 2019 10:25:53 GMT -6
Excellent point about Dana’s probation. Is he a bada$$ rule breaker or is he a narc? I’m thinking there were a few people in the area that had him pegged as a potential narc.
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Post by raemen2 on Dec 31, 2019 13:57:29 GMT -6
... I’m going to go out on a huge limb here and suggest that IF Sue and a squat legged man had a huge shouting match outside 28 and IF that man was Gamberg...Sue got wind of Gamberg suggesting to (subtlety or not so subtle) that Johnny becoming an informant could be in Johnny’s best interest.
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Post by camfaults on Dec 31, 2019 20:57:45 GMT -6
I agree with raemen2.
I wonder if Sue had complained about anyone in Keddie dealing drugs and/or providing drugs to Johnny? Could Johnny and/or Dana been telling LE about suspicious Keddie behavior? If Dana was already a police informant by the time he met Johnny, maybe he became friends with Johnny to get himself into the Keddie community to view drug activity firsthand? Do we know an exact date of when Frank Davis and Chuck Walke left their Keddie cabins after the Albins gave them the boot for drug use?
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Post by Admin Horan on Jan 2, 2020 3:56:40 GMT -6
That's a good point about the maybe argument with Sue. But if he got fired for taking a gun home from the evidence locker (that in PCSO is apparently open to the general public) then somebody had to rat him out. Hell, they had "officers" taking home CARS from the impound.
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Post by kmik on Oct 8, 2020 18:50:42 GMT -6
In the Marty theory all I see is a lot of speculation and rumors started by the very people who had real motive to kill the Sharps. There are plenty of people trying to connect Marty and very few actually looking beyond - so once again I'd like to look beyond at Steve.
In the early '80's Jackie Alvey told a reserve officer that she'd like to speak to Mike Gamberg about the Keddie Murders. She didn't trust anyone at the PCSO (except Mike, I guess) and with good reason because Steve was friends with her son Danny and the Alvey boys were trouble. I also think her husband had some welfare fraud problems in the early 70's. Mike talks to her and she tells him the story of Steve coming to her house around 1:00am - 2:00am on the morning of the murders begging to use her car or stay at her house. She refused him because his appearance and unusual behavior scared her. She said he had shoulder length hair and wore wire rimmed glasses. He told her he needed to get out of town or spend the night and he wanted to see her son Danny who she said was not at home. She also said that Steve ran around with another guy (Monty Porter) who was supposedly acquainted with Dana.
Fast forward years later to 1989 she again reported to Mike that while Steve was staying with her (Mrs. Alvey) sister an airing of America's most wanted: the Keddie murders came on tv and Steve got nervous and left and she watched him retrieve a duffle bag from her shed.
Here's what bothers me with Steve. There is suspicion that swirls around him in the death of his sister Kathy in 1973, and he (and Monty Porter) refused to take a polygraph in her case. Now here he is going to Mrs. Alveys acting crazy in the early morning hours of the murders needing to get out of town (which leaves me to question where he had been living since he needed to get out of town) then Tina's body is found within 5 miles or less as the crow flies (around 14 driving) from where his sister Kathy was found. Then there's the "Steve" supposedly walking by the Sharp's high on acid but Chuck and Richard Meeks claim not to know Steve Howard yet it's mentioned that Steve was Margret Krois boyfriend but Chuck said no he (chuck) was her boyfriend. Plus there's the 1989 story of him abruptly leaving Mrs. Alvey's sister's house after the Keddie episode is shown on tv.
It's obvious that Mrs. Alveys family and her sister's family knew Steve real well it's just such a shame she waited years to tell this. I'm gonna try to dig up the original story because I believe in it she said Steve was familiar with the victims and Porter was familiar with Dana and/or his family. I also think it was discussed on Meanies forum that Steve supposedly hung out a lot at one of the cabins beside the Sharps house. Then throw in Mike Davis saying Dana used to visit the cabin that Mike and Barb lived in before they moved in - was this the same cabin Steve supposedly frequented? Questions, questions...……..
Steve was friends with Danny Alvey who was friends with Banier Heater who was friends with Steve McKim - they could have all been friends - who knows
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Post by kmik on Oct 8, 2020 20:11:06 GMT -6
Gamberg's report said Steve owned a 1955 pickup and a motorcycle but not sure if he owned either in 1981. My question would be where did Mrs. Alvey live at the time of the murders when Steve came to her house - and if he owned a vehicle where was it and why did he need to borrow hers? If he didn't own a vehicle how did he get to her house that morning?
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Post by hope on Oct 8, 2020 20:52:35 GMT -6
Thank you for posting all this! And excellent job finding the possible connection between him, the neighboring cabin and Dana. Could he have run into Johnny, Sheila or even Tina previously? Certainly possible if he was the Steve walking around Keddie that night, probably not the first time he was wondering around Keddie since the Sharps moved in.
There is so little information on him but what is out there sounds very suspicious. Was he ever even interviewed by PCOS? I know they looked into Kathy's murder for similarities, but I dont think I've heard if PCOS ever questioned him after Mrs. Alvey came forward, or hearing Richard's story. Good question regarding where they lived at the time. Also, I wonder when he left the area and moved in with Mrs. Alvey's sister? Could it have been shortly after the murders? Every time I read about him retrieving that duffle bag out of the shed I think about you mentioning Meanie said the clothing in the Sharps living room looks as if someone dumped out the items from a gym bag. It certainly looks that way. Would be nice to know if he owned those vehicles in 81. Especially with all the talk of a truck being seen in the area. Perhaps he needed a car with a trunk and that is why he wanted to borrow her vehicle? Definitely a lot of questions regarding him, his friends and poor sister.
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Post by kmik on Oct 9, 2020 6:05:59 GMT -6
This report says the informant (Mrs. Alvey) said Steve knew the victims and that his friend (Monty) was a friend of Dana or Dana's family. It said she had known Steve since he was a kid so I feel like she knew him well. It also said after the night in question Steve left the area almost immediately and lived with her sister and family for a short time.
Steve's family was living in Quincy when Kathy was killed in '73 and I know Kathy was, and I assume all 3 of the kids, were going to school in Quincy. But I do know that Steve and his sister Debra went to Greenville High later on. I believe (but will have to check) his mom remarried and moved to Sacramento - and that's were Steve lived later on - as did his sister Debra, who moved in with them while battling an illness, before she died. Their (maternal) grandmother was Mabel Brown and is mentioned in the FRB many times.
Kathy was said to be a run away (who knows) and Steve was trouble. I have to think Debra was out there also as the FRB has an article where she sued Greenville High School because she fell off the roof.
What a great thought on needing the car!! I love what Meanie said about the gym bag and think of that too! Yes would love to know if he owned that 55 Chevy in 1981. This is from memory (not good) but I think Meanie posted that Steve cut and sold firewood from his truck (and if he left the area after the murders this would have been before) and also that he was friends with Gary Mollath.
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Post by karis on Oct 9, 2020 9:10:58 GMT -6
This is not listed on the PON list but it was gotten off of dmac's forum.
Steve Howard: had 55 chevy pickup - Kathy Howard's brother, murder in 1973
Why would the police have looked at him in 1981. Mrs. Alvey didn't come forward with that information till 1983(?) or later. It must have stayed on her mind because she contacted them again a few years later. Oh no, the police ( u know the ones that were in on this big conspiracy) were too busy out chasing down leads from a BUNCH OF LIARS.
I don't know whether Steve killed anyone, but he would have been a better suspect that Marty.
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Post by whodunnit on Oct 9, 2020 12:15:54 GMT -6
Nope, I like to speak hear where I can address so much foul hypocricy and stupidity. You all want to prove on thing and one thing only: DMAC IS WRONG! But he's right, so you have to lie and pervert truth. WTG! WTG!
When your done patting yourselves on your back, ask yourself why you now believe Rick Meeks heard about a guy on acid in the street of Keddie that night. He's a liar, and you pick and choose when he's lying? Well, if dmac can't do it neither should you! IDIOTS!
Gerbils killed Dana, he died tied in a chair, fell forward, landed four feet away facing up. Then hammered hiself, choked him dead, then bashed his head in. Then he had the brainpower to tie his feet to Johnny. WTG DANA!
That's what your cheif LIER AND DOPER says. So you'd better bow and suck my tits. Oh, wait, he abandoned this forum years ago sinse theres so many other cases only he can say he solved.
You are so lucky to be abandened by him.
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Post by karis on Oct 9, 2020 12:59:13 GMT -6
Whoyoo, thanks for giving me that good laugh too funny! I HOPE Dmac has more to do than read these forums!!!!
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Post by kmik on Oct 9, 2020 13:09:59 GMT -6
Hilarious! He’s already got half of Keddie and Quincy involved so might as well throw in the gerbils and the cat!
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