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Post by jmo on Mar 24, 2019 22:16:36 GMT -6
MCMULLEN, CARLA
Supposed to know where party in MV was held, John & Dana stole some "acid", just rumors
<STOY>
"McMullen", Carla is actually Carla Mullen. Her (brother) Vern Mullen was in the group home with Dana.
Was Dana "bragging" about something? Maybe I'll post Vern's stuff here when I have a minute. That could be a huge clue to what happened and WHY things happened.
I always thought that NOBODY was talking, but really....EVERYBODY was talking. And, why was Crazy Rob the only person to report seeing Dana with a bag? I don't recall anyone else??
I could be way off but, this is beginning to look like it has A LOT to do with Dana and very little to do with the Sharps.
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Post by kmik on Mar 25, 2019 8:54:54 GMT -6
"Excellent Citizen Report"
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Post by karis on Apr 1, 2019 17:49:59 GMT -6
Just thought I would add this to the PON thread. Quincy was a small town and this is just some of the ways these people were connected to one another.
Chuck Walke was the son of Hy Walke. Judith Lynth lived at Hy Walke's. Roger and Shaun Stratton is Chuck Walke's stepbrothers. Chuck's mother was married to Roger and Shaun's father. Laura (Sunshine) Horlick would later marry Cary Walke, Chuck's brother. Laura and Sandy Foster had lived togather and were good friends.
Jack brown (Backdoor Bar) was Martel (who was living with Frank Davis in cabin 13) Boyd's uncle.
Michelle Forcino was Dennis Forcino's sister-in-law. Hazel was her mother-in-law. She was Sterling Keith Mitchell's sister. He stayed at the foster home with Dana.
Sherry Cuddio (Cheryl Cudia) Penny Waltermire ("Tina was a fast little girl"), Janet Seaters were sisters. Melinda Waltermire was their sister-in-law.
Hilder Hawkinson and Andy Tidwell (Steve Mckim story) lived together (not sure about relationship). Their home burnt the week before the murders. Viola Eisenmenger was Hawkinson's sister.
Cecil Jones and Ron Lingenfelter is connected to the Steve Mckim story. It should be noted that Lingenfelter had lived in Keddie in 1974 and by 1984 was living in Forbestown, which is close to Feather Falls (camp 18).
Dale Wade Meeks was son of Glenna, boyfriend of Marilyn Smartt, brother to Richard (Sheila's baby's daddy) cousin to Phillip Shearer. (while on the old forum, Richard nor his mother ever mention their connection to Phillip (Phillip and the confession story)
Robert Preston and Bobby Whipple are cousins. It was Robert's sister that had Dana's baby.
Dana had several girlfriends, Kimberly Moss, Trish Pettis, Kathy Beckley, Alyssa Seabolt.
Thomas Schmid's wife Vivian was Henry Thompson's sister. Alice Thompson (Sheila stopped by her house that morning wanting her to spend the night) was also Henry's sister.
Tom Curnow and Sandy Foster were step brother and sister in law.
Wayne Scott Goudy and Nadia Ammer (who was in the bar that night) had been married but by April, 1980 they had filed for divorce, and i'm not sure when that became final.
These are just some connections between these people that were being questioned.
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Post by jmo on Apr 1, 2019 21:23:38 GMT -6
I'd love to read the reports on Steve McKim.
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Post by snoho17 on Aug 6, 2019 19:50:44 GMT -6
SPANG, KARL
Said he bought LSD from a "Dana" & a black that lives with a WMA on Lee Rd behind Big O Tire w/ Wht Mustang in front, "Dana" Y black were at LSD party in MV, V/Wingate & Sharp left party w/ "Dana" & another WMA to Keddie in a Blue LTD or similar car & Brn small car w/ 4 other people, Blue car had flat tire later, he followed 6 people (inc. John & Dana) to Keddie from party in MV
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Post by snoho17 on Aug 22, 2019 14:53:42 GMT -6
I wonder if sheila's dad was aware of her pregnancy and what his thoughts on that would be
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Post by kmik on Aug 22, 2019 21:22:35 GMT -6
I be willing to bet he was asked about that in his interview with the police but he died in 2010 so we'll never know.
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Post by kmik on Dec 18, 2019 9:58:02 GMT -6
C, STEVEN Gave Martin Smartt and Sue ride to Quincy 4/6/81, Sue afraid, (turned out not to be Sue) <FORCINO>
J, CRUZITA Named as witness where Sue's life threatened, diff. Sue <THOMAS>/<BRADLEY>
D, MARKInfo on drug dealer, 4/10/81 guy told Sue he should kill her, Cruzita J was witness, J. said it was different Sue, connected Dana Green w/ "Dana" that Spang said was at party in MV <WRIGHT>/<STOY>
Cruzita J.'s story was told to Deputy Wright and she connected who Spang could have been with at MV party. Was she a bartender at the Pioneer Bar? I believe she lived in Greenville.
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Post by snoho17 on Dec 21, 2019 16:54:48 GMT -6
I don't have his name at the moment but the guy who said he was "glad sue was dead" was living in the woods fir several years. FRB did an article about him. I believe he had a camp near FRF, then built a "cabin" right outside keddie.
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Post by snoho17 on Jan 11, 2020 21:19:49 GMT -6
Carl Selby said that Pete Tolen had learned from his daughter Kathy [Cathline Campbell Scalf] that a 17-year-old boy had picked up Johnny and Dana, unknown where, and took them to Keddie the night they were murdered. Very sketchy info is that the 17-year-old, only known by the last name of Joy or Joey [Joey Carvalho?], had either seen a fight between Johnny and Dana and two Indian males from the Greenville area or had been told about it. The Indian guys had supposedly said if they did not get what they wanted, they would kill Johnny and his family. (1ef) <Selby to PCSO > Same guy who admitted being a narc?
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Post by snoho17 on Jan 11, 2020 21:21:57 GMT -6
Just caught the "last name joy or joey" part so how does this jump to Joey(first name)C.?
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Post by karis on Jan 12, 2020 13:04:05 GMT -6
Same guy who admitted being a narc?
Yes Jose (Joey) Carvalho is the same guy in the article that admitted to being a narc. The age is wrong in the paper unless there were two of them. But I can only find one. I think he was in the class with Dana, but I will recheck.
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Post by kmik on Oct 12, 2020 15:36:35 GMT -6
With the Meeks and Marilyn being the source for the Marty info and then this "wow" friend list from Sheila in May it's no wonder Marty thought "they" were out to get him. 4-23-81, two days after Marilyn told LE that Marty could be involved, Tony V said he knew Marty and Marilyn (oh Lord) and that Marty had been acting strange since the murders, paranoid "they" were out to get him - and "they" were. Does anyone really believe that Tony V was on fishing trip with Marty and Marilyn?
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Post by hope on Oct 18, 2020 12:39:10 GMT -6
MCMULLEN, CARLA Supposed to know where party in MV was held, John & Dana stole some "acid", just rumors <STOY> "McMullen", Carla is actually Carla Mullen. Her (brother) Vern Mullen was in the group home with Dana. Was Dana "bragging" about something? Maybe I'll post Vern's stuff here when I have a minute. That could be a huge clue to what happened and WHY things happened. I always thought that NOBODY was talking, but really....EVERYBODY was talking. And, why was Crazy Rob the only person to report seeing Dana with a bag? I don't recall anyone else?? I could be way off but, this is beginning to look like it has A LOT to do with Dana and very little to do with the Sharps. So, with the new details emerging regarding the long rumored "acid party" in Keddie that night and now seeing that Carla Mcmullen is actually Vern Mullen's sister (thanks jmo!)....it makes her statements on the PON list more interesting. 810501- ?b Carla M. states that she heard that Johnny and Dana had stolen ten sheets of acid from someone and that was why they were killed. Reported to Stoy on 5/1/81.
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Post by kmik on Oct 18, 2020 19:15:13 GMT -6
Yep and read the "Excellent Citizens Report" which says Vernal M. knows something - so it's possible Vernal told this to Carla. Didn't she deny this when the police questioned her?
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