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Post by kmik on Jun 2, 2018 20:17:06 GMT -6
MD, were glad to have you here. Yes Joe was a good source of info but Joe doesn't know what happened either. If he endured the rants from 28 he'd be able to survive here. None of us here claim to know what happened so you thinking Marty and Bo are guilty is okay with us. I think the therapist confession really drives it home for a lot of Marty theory believers. I just take into consideration that this man was recalling, from memory, 7 or 8 weekly sessions he had with a man 28 years earlier. I also take into account that Henry T also confessed to a friend who said that yes he believed Henry was telling the truth. We do have that mans report which was taken shortly after the murders.
I agree that Justin should come clean but who would really believe him now? Why is it nobody really wants to hear the story from Ricky (who most of us believe was not asleep)? Why in the world would he possibly cover for a man he barely knew for 37 years? What puzzles me even more is why Sheila would ask for the help of Vidocq, take part in the documentary, the ID show, the psychic show, and People Magazine and beg for help from the public when she has 2 brothers who were in the cabin at the time of the murders? It's really confusing. If the truth ever comes out and Marty is the guilty one I'd have a real hard time believing the Meeks knew nothing.
Thanks for joining!
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Post by justice17 on Jun 2, 2018 20:30:39 GMT -6
Hi Mamadawg,
I think it’s best to come to this site with a clear mind,clean slate. Dmac has us convinced that Marde and Bo were the killers. I am pretty sure they did it but what IF it wasn’t them?
Maybe we need to rethink all of the options and look at other POI. Like I have always been very suspicious of James Seabolt Sr. For the following reasons:
⭐️Sheila said her Mom was mad at James Sr. And she though the reason was something about Tina...Why? And then Sue all of a sudden Didn’t want Tina to stay the night. Why? ⭐️ He’s Gone very early the next morning returning at noon ⭐️ His name was mentioned as possible suspect by at least 3 people who Knew him. Including the caretakers son who said James had a bad Temper ⭐️Zonita mentions he didn’t sleep well that night. I Wonder if that means he Got out of bed? Did he take a walk?
😉By the way,I’m a female and my real name is Laurie.
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Post by karis on Jun 2, 2018 21:17:40 GMT -6
Justice, you are right. All POI's should be looked at. After all this case is not solved (no matter what Dmac says). There is no physical evidence that Marty, Bo, Marilyn, Tony, Dee ect.. were in that house that night or Mike G would not have to beg for information. That is what bothers me and causes me to continue to keep looking at this.
⭐️Sheila said her Mom was mad at James Sr. And she though the reason was something about Tina...Why? And then Sue all of a sudden Didn’t want Tina to stay the night. Why?
Thanks for reminding me of that. (Sometimes you forget things that other members post and then it sorta puts everything in perspective.) Sheila mentions in her book that she, Jamie , and his father pulled the boys out the window. I have always wondered about that. I noticed that Victoria Metcalf said Sheila, Jamie and possibly Zonita pulled the boys out.
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Post by jmo on Jun 2, 2018 21:47:57 GMT -6
MD- Everyone (and their opinions) are welcome here. Nobody bullies or name calls. All things are open for discussion. None of us know who did it. With that said, let's discuss Marty, Bo, Marilyn, Justin -- Is there a certain reason you feel they're guilty? Go to the heading concerning "Marty" and post away! We'll welcome the discussion. :-)
I believe we all started with wanting to hang Marty by his toenails. Maybe because most of us started with dmac's page and all the biased videos. There's a lot of good information on both but for me, there just came a time where I started asking about (fill in a name), and (fill in another name), and (fill in yet another name). 28 was having none of that. Oh no no no no no and a person can only beat their head against a brick wall for so long before they tire and walk away. (I don't think we're alone. When a forum has hundreds of followers and only three posting, well, that says something.)
As far as Joe goes...I have to agree with Kmik. I don't think he knows what happened. And, that's okay; he's always welcome here. Maybe some day he'll be back and speculate with the rest of us. I thoroughly enjoyed his writing, for sure. For that matter, I enjoyed Dmac's for a long time. Dmac was into fancy writing and riddles and entertaining people with his "swag" and I certainly can appreciate that without having the time for it. But, then David just got mean, nasty, and I'm pretty sure, fallin' down drunk. In which case, he should have just stayed away from his keyboard. Somewhere along the line, he just lost himself.
Justice: Good to see you here. Does it surprise you (as much as it surprised me) to even be considering Mr. Seabolt?? His name has been kicked around for quite a while and at first I was like "Wha???" and now I'm more like hmmmmmmmmmmm....
So many people. So many people.
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Post by mamadawg on Jun 3, 2018 21:58:48 GMT -6
Thank you everyone for the welcome. The vibe here is definitely better.
Kmik, your Sheila theory is amazing and one I've never thought of. Why hasn't Sheila spoken out about what the boys may or may not have seen? Made me think.
Justice, sorry girl, didn't mean to transgender you.
I will have an open mind and I always wanted to hear different points of view, it just wasn't allowed. I feel bad for Dmac. I think he is in the throes of a serious addiction to opioids and is off the grid. Just my suspicions based on what he's written.
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Post by justice17 on Jun 3, 2018 23:21:42 GMT -6
H E L L O.......
Regarding Dmac:
I got this email from him last night:
KEDDIE28 Fuck off and die, whore On Sat, Jun 2, 2018 at 6:30 PM
Hopefully he will just leave me alone now? I wish him the best and I hope he finds peace in his life.
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Post by kmik on Jun 4, 2018 5:46:37 GMT -6
Yes there's definitely something deeper there and I pray to God that he finds peace also. Maybe one day he will finally let go of whatever it is that keeps him a prisoner of his past. Nobody's had a perfect life but it doesn't have to destroy our future.
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Post by jmo on Jun 8, 2018 16:57:49 GMT -6
Dmac? Peace? Nahhhh....None of us could even BUY him peace. Not for a kajillion dollars.
Has anyone else noticed how disrespectful he is to WOMEN?? I've read hundreds of his posts and he rallies a bit with guys but then right away backs down and tries to be their friend. But, women? Yep. He hates 'em. No respect. NONE. NADA.
Hand to the Lord if I wrote something as a man, he'd be all up in my sh*t wanting to be my friend. But, yet he has a few women followers? I don't get it. smh OMG. Women. Do better. (I think K hit it right on the head. Abusive relationship. Leave. You'll feel better. It's HIM. Not you.)
So, nope. I'd buy him a drink in the pub and probably end up beating his ass in the alley. Well, maybe not. idk Sure got some friends who would. TRUTH.
Do I feel sorry for him? Yes. Roughly 3% of my time. I'd go as high as 11% on some days but not today.
Today on a scale of 1 to 10 I'm about a -4. He did this. Dammit. Why couldn't he just hold it together and keep it sane? Maybe it's just not in him. Maybe it never was. idk What a mess.
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Post by Guest on Jun 15, 2018 16:55:33 GMT -6
I have also noticed the disrespect towards women. It seems that a guy gets more leeway on his site.
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Post by karis on Jun 25, 2018 7:15:17 GMT -6
I have also noticed the disrespect towards women. It seems that a guy gets more leeway on his site. You are right . Maybe it's because they simply want access to his forum. The few that posted had to deal with someone who seemed to be coming unhinged. Wishing death on people that have NOT been accused of any crime (as of now) is disturbing. Shame on Mike G. for publicly aligning yourself with someone who has as much hate as the person(s) who committed these crimes.
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Post by raemen2 on Aug 6, 2018 18:28:23 GMT -6
Wow! Just wow! Dmac is currently on Reddit spouting off his insanity, foul language, threats and how he solved the case in 2011. Okay, not news but there are so many references to him and Gamberg " doing this" "wanting justice " etc, etc. I just don't understand for the life of me how the Sherriff's Department of Pulmas County has allowed itself to become embroiled with this Dmac/keddie28 character. It's a complete and total embarrassment. How has Gamberg allowed this to happen!
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Post by kmik on Aug 6, 2018 19:57:24 GMT -6
I've certainly asked the same question but the truth is Greg Hagwood embarrassed Plumas first by allowing Josh Hancock access to the Keddie room and police files in an "open" investigation and second by calling in a guy with a grudge of his own to investigate these murders. Then to align themselves with 28, who has repeatedly posted of his desire to kill several people, only makes them look as dirty as 28 - since the police in fact should protect and serve, not encourage the murderous behavior of someone they have to know is unstable.
If this was solved back in 2011 then Gamberg should have been ready to make an arrest in 2013 when he got the job as special investigator. But here we are 5 years, several tv news segments, many newspaper articles, one ID show, and a series of People magazine articles later and they are taking it to VIDOCQ instead of the DA? It really doesn't look like they've solved anything.
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Post by kmik on Aug 8, 2018 21:46:53 GMT -6
It's puzzling that Dmac and Gamberg have so willingly bought the bartenders 1981 story of Marty dating Sue - but do not question her silence about giving the boys a ride to Keddie for 36 years? The police searched for the answer to that question for 36 years - but all she could offer in 1981 was that Marty was dating Sue? If it's true she must be the only person who knew it.
It's well known who discovered Tina's remains yet we don't even know who gave the boys a ride or who discovered "the hammer in the pond"? Why all the secrecy now? Cover-up? Corruption? Could somebody please remind me of why DMAC (and a few of those "core" members) started calling Josh Hancock a liar?
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Post by kmik on Sept 27, 2018 21:19:39 GMT -6
After reading a recent post on Keddie FB I really wonder why Josh was ever called a liar.
Josh Hancock wrote in a post (many years ago) that it was an undisputed FACT that Justin covered Sue. This is not new information coming from Mike Gamberg.
In the 1981 cassette recording of the crime scene photo's it was said that the blanket and sheet covering Sue came from what they believed to be Tina's bed. I don't think it matters if the sheet and blanket came off of Sue's bed, Tina's bed, or the floor of the girls room - but the sheet and blanket was taken from A BED in the girls room and used to cover Sue.
The gate to the swinging bridge was locked, the gate was unlocked - oh my. Mike Gamberg said that he knew who lived there in 1981, knew they had a dog and would have greeted anyone with a loaded firearm, so I think his 1981 knowledge of that area would be far more reliable than someone's trip to the area 30 years later.
And lastly it has never been confirmed when the aerial photos were taken. So to believe Wade car and Dee's car (which was already confirmed as being at Cabin 26 that day by the police) is seen in photos "sneaking out of Keddie to retrieve Tina's body" is crazy. The "trip to Reno" story, which was told by Glenna Meeks and Marty Smartt, was made on Monday not Sunday. You only need to read the old post and Marty's interview to confirm that.
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Post by Admin Horan on Jan 5, 2019 6:27:21 GMT -6
What happened to the Big Vidocq Society Brouhaha that Gamberg and McNarie were shooting their mouths off about last summer? Snicker.
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